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This is John Baxter, a conversation with colleague Janet Nsaya, the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, about the protests since 2022 against the brutality of the regime in Tehran,

the morality police, the Basij, the IRGC, who's led the protests on the streets heedlessly.

Jonathan identifies Gen Z. That's right. They make a distinction just as we do in the West.

Gen Z, millennials, Gen X, and then we old boomers.

Here's Janetin to describe who's in the streets,

who's fearless, heedless, reckless, bold,

and what is to be done in future support is the question

that can't be answered yet.

More of this tonight.

Absolutely it is. So speaking from my own experience, I'm a, I guess, younger millennial, I'm on the border of being Gen Z, and I was politically active when I was in Iran.

And what was mostly attributed to millennials at the time was the 2009 Green Movement.

At the time, there was still hope of reform within the system.

We were really hoping to not...

I mean, of course, everybody ultimately wanted the regime gone.

But we thought the first step towards that would be playing into the system

to see whether we can choose certain actors that might aid us in the long run.

Gen Z has categorically rejected that notion, which is very notable. And again, it's not necessarily

it's something that they developed. It's a box that they were put in by the Islamic Republic,

both on an economic, but more importantly, political and security level and yes what we've

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