This is John Bachelor, conversation with Beppy Severini, his book Italian Lessons, 50 Things We Know About Life Now.

This book from Reflections Past the Pandemic. You know it was very, very bad in Italy. In the

first months many, many people left us because they were senior and no one understood the virus early on.

This is a book to celebrate the recovery of Italy and 50 things includes what Beppi is about to say,

Italians no food.

Italians no pasta.

Italians are passionate about food, which is something that is wonderful to contemplate

after the pandemic. Here's Beppi Severnini the Italian way with food even compared to the French.

Brasato and risotto if you look at my 50 things we know about life now, they're released. You can find them at the very beginning of the book.

And it's just one, two, three, four, one to 50.

And I don't remember, I don't have the book here in front of me,

but there is one sort of halfway through about food

and they, and he says that we know instinctively

what is good and genuine. We just need to look at the

pasta to know what I mean the competence about food and wine in Italy so

widespread and so ingrained comes through family

living together history that Italians don't pretend they know about food they

actually do and and when you hear Italians talking about food, you see the passion and the

extreme proficiency in these. And food is part, is part of our life, more so than in any country that I know.

Even more than France if I may.

More of this later.