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*PREVIEW* Intelligence 5.0 feat. Felix Biederman

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Comedy

4.7935 Ratings

🗓️ 8 January 2021

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Have you heard of a book called 'Nudge'? have you heard of 'nudge theory'? Well, we've dug into and -- believe it or not -- it's so deeply stupid that we had to make sure to discuss it on here as part of our Intelligence series with Chapo Trap House's Felix Biederman (@ByYourLogic). Hope you enjoy! If you want to listen to the whole thing, get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/45904183 We support the London Renters Union, which helps people defeat their slumlords and avoid eviction. If you want to support them as well, you can here: https://londonrentersunion.org/donate Here's a central location to donate to bail funds across the US to help people held under America's utterly inhumane system: https://bailproject.org/?form=donate *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind GYDS dot com). If you need web design help, reach out to him here:  https://www.tomallen.media/ Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and Alice (@AliceAvizandum)

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0:00.0

I said earlier this is a Chicago book, Felix, as you said, like Sunstein is from Chicago

0:19.0

Thaler, like the two authors, Cass Sunstein and Richard Thaler,

0:22.2

they made their careers in Chicago.

0:25.2

And, right, if you look at this, right,

0:27.7

if in the 1970s, you know,

0:29.8

Friedman and the Chicago boys were the tragedy,

0:32.6

uh,

0:33.2

love that album,

0:33.8

Thaler and Sunstein are absolutely the farce of 2008. Yeah, like, Friedman is like,

0:41.0

I mean, he's pretty upfront and just like being evil, more or less. Friedman will just

0:45.4

like nakedly tell you like, yeah, we need some fascism to open up markets, uh, you know,

0:51.0

any, anyone who dies because of markets, like, fuck you, that was supposed to happen.

0:55.4

Just like, you know, it doesn't really, like, he dresses it up in some flowery language about how, like, you know, markets are liberatory or whatever.

1:02.6

But for the most part, he's talking to the people he's selling it to directly, the policymakers.

1:09.4

Sunstein has this, you know, as the farce and the most farcical thing you could want is a media

1:16.1

career.

1:17.1

You know, he like every one of his time, everyone of that era wanted to be a media star.

1:24.3

And so the book is filled, like his things are filled with like, you know, self-congratulatory outside thinking and actually flowery language in a way that Friedman wouldn't do.

1:34.2

Even if they're functionally the same, their ideas.

1:37.6

And I mean, it's the, if you want to look at that, it's the, that Takeshi Kitano, the Japanese filmmaker called America an entertainment nation.

1:44.9

And Sunstein is absolutely the Milton Friedman of an entertainment nation.

1:48.1

I love it when the army gives me a nudge out of a fucking helicopter.

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