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So we are joined by our good friend and comrade V.J.

Pishad, who is the director of the Tri Continental Institute, a frequent guest of

the Red Nation podcast, as well as his first premiere on the East as a podcast.

Thanks for joining us, VJ.

Nice to be with you.

Nice to be with both of you.

So hopefully, this doesn't become the topic of an investigative journalist piece by New Lines magazine

We this is our second attempt at recording and I made a joke about Anthony blinking listening into this phone call or this podcast recording and

VJ's computer proceeded to crash.

So good signs, good signs, but let me just reiterate or re-ask my question.

You know, there's a lot going out on the world, especially with the war in Ukraine.

And, you know, some analysts are saying, you know, there's kind of new divisions, new global divisions,

new lines being drawn, new economic alternatives being drawn, and while that might be the case in response to Western sanctions against Russia, you know, it still doesn't get rid of the fact that the United States has over 800 military bases, essentially encircling, you know, so-called

enemies of US Empire, which is China two months ago, and now it's Russia is the primary focus and so I was wondering if you could

elaborate a little bit on you know how you see this particular moment in time and you know which

way it can go you know you you're beginning to talk about we live in a time of

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