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This Wreckage

PREVIEW - History is a Weapon 11: The Sorrows of Empire w/ Matt Christman

This Wreckage

Sean KB and AP Andy

Arts, Music

4.2970 Ratings

🗓️ 1 September 2021

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Matt and Sean have returned to talk about the disastrous defeat of the United States in Afghanistan:

How did this happen and how does it implicate the American Imperial project? Why was the War on Terror? How is Biden's withdrawal linked to broader strategic interests (Cold War with China)? Whither American capitalist hegemony in the 21st century? And how will the citizens of this cursed country reconcile themselves to imperial decline? (Not well.)

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0:00.0

Americans were by and large willing to put up with a lot of fucking bloodshed.

0:07.0

Oh God, they were demanding just in the blood letting in the streets.

0:14.5

Yeah. And I was I was 21. I was young and I was one of the few like anti boy people.

0:21.8

I read a lot of Nome Chomsky and

0:23.6

Chomsky said a lot of things in the meet up to that. One of the things he said was

0:27.4

that it would be a humanitarian disaster check. Yeah. He said that it would be a

0:32.2

huge waste of money and resources check. He said that it would be a huge waste of money and resources check.

0:34.0

He said it would kill a bunch of Americans and a ton of Afghans check.

0:38.0

And he also said that it was going to bring more terrorism.

0:41.0

So like up and down the line, you know, every single one of those things has happened. But again, there's no reckoning with that whatsoever. There's no sense that like, oh, maybe we need to rethink all of our precepts about the war on terror or what the valid use of American power is going to be or even like the fact that

0:58.4

America's ability at this point in time to like even like prop up its own allies like the UK the Brits are

1:07.8

fucking pissed right now we left them in the fucking lurch let along the Ukrainian

1:11.3

and apparently so I just found out just just came out

1:16.6

that it was just leaked I guess from the White House or the Pentagon that the Brits

1:21.2

are why that the suicide bombing was allowed to happen at the airport

1:27.4

which that just looks like we're actually just going to a war in the press with our own ally which yeah you don't really want that

1:36.8

ideally when you're you know trying to put together a you're trying to hold together a international, you know, imperial project.

1:45.0

It's, it's, I mean, people know this. We've talked about it before.

1:49.0

Talked about it for ages, but American power is not built solely on brute force.

1:53.6

There's different legs to this stool.

1:55.1

One of them is the ability to do untold violence across the globe.

1:59.4

Do things like, you know, murder, Afghan civilians over and over and over again for 20 years like

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