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This Wreckage

Ep 156: The Pig Majority w/ Geo Maher

This Wreckage

Sean KB and AP Andy

Arts, Music

4.2970 Ratings

🗓️ 25 August 2021

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Jamie is joined by Geo Maher to discuss his new book, "A World Without Police: How Strong Communities Make Cops Obsolete." They discuss the origins of mass incarceration, the debate around "non-reformist" reforms, and alternative models of community safety. Also, the million dollar question: how do abolitionist politics fit into the over-arching project of building communism?

W/ bonus questions on the communes of Venezuela and the Zbellion!

Buy the book:

https://www.versobooks.com/books/3783-a-world-without-police

Andy's essay criticizing the politics of safety:

https://illwill.com/gimme-danger

Outro: Noname - Song 33

Support the show at patreon.com/theantifada

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Antifada where unrest is best with caveats. Perhaps we'll discuss some of them today.

0:12.4

It's a Jamie Solo episode. Perhaps we'll discuss some of them today.

0:13.0

It's a Jamie solo episode today

0:16.0

in that Sean and Andy are not here.

0:18.0

However, I am not here by myself.

0:21.0

I am here with friend of the show

0:22.0

and returning champion G Omar the artist

0:25.4

formerly known as George Chickarell Omar what's up George how you doing not a whole

0:30.5

lot super glad to be here.

0:37.0

Awesome, and we are talking about your new book, I should mention,

0:38.0

it is called A World Without Police,

0:40.0

How Strong Communities Make Cops Obsolete Out Now on Verso Books.

0:45.0

There we go. That's all the information that I needed to front load.

0:49.0

So how are you doing these days, George? are you staying out of trouble?

0:54.0

I mean anymore any more white genocide controversies?

0:58.0

That's always a sort of relative statement but you know things have been a little quieter lately certainly yeah you're

1:04.8

teaching it faster now that seems like a very chill place to be super chill super

1:10.4

relaxed super smart kids and you know the way the zoomers are these days, you know,

1:16.3

everything is really up for grabs and they're ready to burn things down, you know that.

1:20.6

Oh, hell yeah, you know, I've really heard a lot of mixed things about the Zoomers. Like, I feel like maybe there is a tendency to perhaps

1:30.0

idealize them on the part of people who are old and tired like yeah they're going to save us don't worry about it and other people like no college kids are fucking idiots and that's still true like maybe it's a dialectic, I don't know.

1:42.8

Yeah, maybe something like that.

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