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This is John Batchel, conversation with colleague Evan Ellis, professor,

U.S. Army War College, about the Venezuela Challenge.

Maria Karina Machado wins the Nobel Peace Prize as the leader of the opposition to the illegitimate Caracas regime headed by Maduro. A man named is the head of a

drug cartel. The elected President Gonzalez is with Machado. They both make the point that

their new government will not be a regime changed. They are the elected government. However, the professor

says timeline here is critical. Presuming all goes well and Maduro leaves the country.

What happens next? Here's Professor Abenalas to rehearse what we can anticipate and the timeline

and the challenges for Gonzalez and Machado.

More of this tonight, much more.

The U.S. won't necessarily be staying around to establish a, you know, the transition to a democratic order.

And thus, Maria Carina Machado, Edwendo Gonzalez, the legitimately elected president

from last July, will have a very brief window and a very difficult task to establish order to get

the loyalty of those military who previously, their bosses have been aligned with Maduro, essentially

to get them behind the democratic government to take care of the challenges.