Book your ticket to happiness with Sun Express Airlines. This is John Batcheter, conversation with my good friend and colleague Malcolm Hoeline Conference of President's

major American Jewish organizations about Rafa, the village at the southern

end of the Gaza Strip, underneath the surface which is rolling sand dunes, right now occupied by a

tent city of Gazans who fled there from the fighting in the north.

Underneath are tunnels, a tunnel system that at this moment is said to

provide shelter for up to four battalions of Hamas left, broken battalions. The IDF is planning

an offensive to go into that underground area and defeat Hamas finally. Malcolm Hanline very much underlines why that's necessary and what it means if the

IDF is not successful, not successful.

Here's Malcolm Hoanline on the imminent offensive against

Rafa to be carried out very carefully because of the civilians on the surface, but

the fighting is under the ground so much as I understand it at this point

as much to learn about this. Malcolm online. So the the

you've accurately described the situation in in raffa. There can be no end to

this war if Israel doesn't have the opportunity to go in in a well-defined way that gives the exit route to the

citizens who are there and again the supply of food that we talked about gives

them an option of going to the north where food will be available.

The Rafa itself is the hiding ground for

set for battalions, not entire battalions, but very large presence of the leadership and

the operatives of Hamas and were they to be allowed to remain, they would re-emerge.

This is the fifth war that Hamas has launched against Israel.

And each time they emerge stronger because if they can come out just to wave the flag,

they don't care about the loss.

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