This is John Batchel, a conversation with my colleague Malcolm Holnion Conference of Presidents about the pogrom in the Netherlands, the attacks on Jews throughout the European plane.

Why? How is this happening? And who's paying for it? Malcolm answers that question by starting in the U.S. and then looking to the situation in Europe.

It is being paid for. It is being driven. It is being organized. And there are surprises.

Here's Malcolm. More of this tonight.

Oh, boy. You are so right. And we have, we've had this exploration on the air sometimes.

But we know here in the United

States, for instance, that the demonstrations on our campuses are getting money from Chinese

sources. We know that the Qataris have poured billions of dollars onto the campuses and

into our campuses, radicalizing people and promoting radical ideologies and certainly anti-Israel and quickly

morphing into anti-Semitic messages we see the demonstrations continuing on a

line of campuses we know that it's a combination of sources and involvement it's

Muslims it's leftists it's extreme rightists, who are

participating in being enlisted. The internet has enabled them to mobilize much more quickly

and often in a stealth fashion, but they can be uncovered, and there must be a much more concerted

effort. The government of Germany has clamped down. In Holland,

they're talking about deporting the people, let alone prison sentences. That's the way you begin

to get a handle on this.