This is John Batcher, a conversation with my colleague Conrad Black, a distinguished

biographer writing of the National Post about the abuse, the persecution of a man standing

up for his rights during the COVID pandemic, doubting the mandates from the provincial

governments about masking, about distancing, about lockdown. his name is John Carpe.

This joins with other instances that Conrad has explicated in his column.

The abuse of the truckers comes to mind. So does the abuse of Jordan Peterson by various official bodies.

Dissent is being punished in Canada. There is a charter of rights, I learned from Conrad in place, firmly in place and not being respected

by someone, a number of someone.

Conrad speaks to the election in 2025 to settle the right to bring this matter before the Canadian people.

More of this tonight, here's Conrad Black to describe the political pressure building on this point of freedom of dissent.

More of this later.

Well, the opposition members do, but I think we're coming to a head in the election on this

country next year. I think this will be part of it for the main opposition

party is certainly going to claim that the incumbent

federal government has failed in its duty to protect the rights of the population.

If governments, you know, of all the responsibilities for the government of the country has

protecting the rights of the people along with protecting the country against other

countries and and you know maintaining the finances of the country those are its

cheap purpose otherwise what do we need a government for and

and they're not doing it and and they will be an issue and I mean all the polls

indicate that there's a good deal of discontent with this high-handed attitude of both the federal and

provincial government that they can decide what opinion should be heard and they will narrowly manage the conduct of people.

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