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PREVIEW: Brokenomics | Free Speech Bill with Michael Reiners

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🗓️ 2 June 2026

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Dan talks with Michael Reiners about the British Free Speech Bill.

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0:00.0

The

0:07.0

The Hello and welcome to Brokonomics.

0:28.2

Now, as you can see, I've been kicked out of the studio for technical reasons and I've come in here,

0:33.0

but that's all right because I've got a guest for you to make up for it.

0:36.9

I'm joined by Michael Rayner's lawyer.

0:40.7

Thank you for coming on, Michael.

0:41.7

Thank you for having me, Dan.

0:42.9

Now, you are part of a bit of a team, a bit like the A team, but for free speech.

0:49.4

I mean, that's very kind of you to phrase it that way, yes.

0:51.5

But there is a team of us who have put together a

0:54.5

recent piece of proposed model legislation, which is designed after about at least a decade

1:01.7

for each of my co-drafters of staring at this problem that we've been having in this country,

1:07.7

picking out the specific legislation that has caused it, and then attempting

1:11.4

to skip the consultation step that lots of legislation and indeed think tanks get caught in,

1:16.9

and go straight to the solution. And that team that you've described is myself, Preston Byrne,

1:22.9

who has been a fantastic voice for First Amendment protections in the US, and as a dual qualified lawyer, he's also a solicitor here.

1:29.9

And then Elijah Granite, who is a scholar of considerable breadth on a variety of

1:34.6

different jurisdictions and has basically taken an eye to it after Preston and I put

1:40.1

the fast thing together. And he has a very keen understanding of what the Office of

1:44.0

Parliamentary Council usually brings to the table when they And he has a very keen understanding of what the Office of Parliamentary

1:44.6

Council usually brings to the table when they scrutinise a bill, what flies and what doesn't,

1:50.1

and has smoothed over this thing with, I would say, a plomb and made the thing look rather beautiful,

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