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Leaders with Francine Lacqua

Preview: Blackstone's Jon Gray on the Moment His Career Could Have Ended

Leaders with Francine Lacqua

Bloomberg

Management, Business, Careers, Entrepreneurship

4.664 Ratings

🗓️ 4 May 2026

⏱️ 4 minutes

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Summary

In next week's episode, host Francine Lacqua speaks with Jon Gray, president and chief operating officer of Blackstone Group. Here's a preview of that conversation, in which he talks about leading Blackstone's leveraged buyout of Hilton Hotels, which after a difficult road became the most profitable private equity real estate deal ever.

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0:00.0

Hey, everyone. I'm Dylan Dreyer, co-host of the third hour of today and mom to three wild boys.

0:06.0

I've learned a lot in my years as a parent, mostly that I don't have it all figured out yet.

0:10.7

And I'm not the only one. This is my new podcast, the parent chat. Each week I sit down with someone new for honest conversation and real world advice about parenting.

0:20.3

I am over here just like winging it hey i'm

0:22.7

just trying not to screw my own kids up i'm not giving you advice on how i'm not to screw yourself

0:25.9

search the parent chat on youtube and wherever you get your podcasts hi everyone i'm frenzine

0:34.8

and i'm really hope you're enjoying the show Leaders with Francine Lacquette, the podcast.

0:38.9

Now, please share the information where you find the podcast, and the ones you enjoy, send it to your friends.

0:44.3

Leave reviews. It really helps other people discover the podcast. Here's a preview of the conversation we have coming up next week with John Gray, number two at Blackstone.

0:53.4

You're known as the Hilton deal guy, right?

0:56.3

20 years ago you take this massive bet on Hilton. You pay 26 billion for it at Blackstone

1:01.5

with 20 billion debt. What were you thinking? I wasn't as wise back then. I guess at the time,

1:08.8

if you go back, this is right before the financial crisis. And I was

1:14.6

running our real estate business. And what we were looking for was how could we buy great real

1:20.8

estate or operating businesses at reasonable prices? And there were so much debt in the market

1:27.1

fueling private real estate values

1:29.8

that we found we could buy the public companies at better prices. So we ended up paying a big

1:35.9

premium 30 plus percent over where the company was trading. And we committed in July of 07.

1:42.9

We closed in late October. By early 08, things are going badly. The financial crisis really picks up. And the company has a 20% decline in revenue and a 40% decline in cash flow. And we put a lot of debt on it. And I would say at that moment, it did feel like it

2:01.9

was career shortening and that I shouldn't be sitting here today. Did you think what have I done?

2:06.7

Or did you think we'll get through it? I think there was part of me that was what have I done.

2:12.1

But there was also part of me that was this is a great business. We still thought that travel

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