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PREVIEW: Author Svetlana Lokhova, "The Spy Who Changed History," identifies the Soviet control agents who ran the stealing of the atomic bomb. More.

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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🗓️ 30 June 2025

⏱️ 2 minutes

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PREVIEW: Author Svetlana Lokhova, "The Spy Who Changed History," identifies the Soviet control agents who ran the stealing of the atomic bomb. More.
1955 NEVADA

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0:00.0

This is John Batchel, a conversation with the author Svetlana Kova, this bio-changed history,

0:06.5

about a Russian agent named Stan Shomovsky, who was a brilliant aeronautical student at MIT,

0:13.4

and then became a promoter of aeronautics, but at the same time, borrowing, stealing, acquiring the aeronautical secrets

0:25.1

before the Second World War, this is the 1930s, and then during the war, conquering all

0:32.4

aircraft that the U.S. was creating during the war fighting.

0:43.0

Also a principle in the stealing of the atomic bomb secrets after the war.

0:49.7

Stanislav Shumovsky also mentioned here is a man named Ganadi Obakmian,

0:59.0

Gekovachmian, a man who is a genuine scientist and one of the founders of the Russian equivalent of MIT.

1:07.3

However, he and Shemovsky run agents, run the agents that steal the atomic bomb, among others.

1:17.4

The couriers that are often named in the atomic bomb theft, Harry Gold, for example, Elizabeth Bentley, work for Ovakmeon and Schumovsky.

1:25.1

They are spies. They run spies. They recruit spies. The spy changed history is the book.

1:30.2

Here's Svetlana characterizing how they did it, how they work together,

1:32.6

Ovakmian and Shemowski.

1:33.9

More of this later.

1:38.8

Yeah, so he would mainly run the Soviet agents who would recruit Americans,

1:41.0

but he would also recruit Americans himself.

1:46.3

So the way it would work is both Shomovsky and the Kamean and the others, they integrated themselves into the U.S. scientific community. So they would attend

1:51.1

dinners, seminars, just meet privately. And for that purpose, so the Kamean published a number of

1:57.5

academic articles. So he had serious academic credentials. He was not pretending to be a scientist.

2:02.1

He actually was one.

2:03.4

And that's how he was able to hang around with the scientists.

2:07.6

But his main role was to supervise other Soviets.

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