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*PREVIEW* American Herstory X feat. Jathan Sadowski

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Comedy

4.6851 Ratings

🗓️ 30 May 2024

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

For this week's bonus, Jathan Sadowski of This Machine Kills podcast joins the gang to talk about the “new” generation of AI models announced by Google, OpenAI, Microsoft, and others - all of which seem to want to imitate the movie Her. The value proposition of this to a normal person is unclear. Get the whole thing on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/american-x-feat-105234291   *EDINBURGH LIVE SHOW ALERT* We're going to be live at Monkey Barrel comedy at the Edinburgh Fringe on August 14, and you can get tickets here: https://www.wegottickets.com/event/621432   *STREAM ALERT* Check out our Twitch stream, which airs 9-11 pm UK time every Monday and Thursday, at the following link: https://www.twitch.tv/trashfuturepodcast *WEB DESIGN ALERT* Tom Allen is a friend of the show (and the designer behind our website). If you need web design help, reach out to him here:  https://www.tomallen.media/ Trashfuture are: Riley (@raaleh), Milo (@Milo_Edwards), Hussein (@HKesvani), Nate (@inthesedeserts), and November (@postoctobrist)

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0:00.0

Real quick, on this as well, I don't think the endpoint is that we will constantly have conversations with our phone.

0:06.6

I think that's actually, for them, that's just a necessary step along the way to the actual endpoint, is that conversation becomes obsolete because the AI can so precisely predict exactly what you need before you even think to ask for it,

0:27.0

you no longer have to directly interact with the phone.

0:30.4

It becomes a one-way interaction of the AI feeding you.

0:34.8

Oh, you want to know what the weather is?

0:36.4

I knew you wanted to know what the weather is. Before you even knew you wanted to know what the weather is? I knew you wanted to know what the weather

0:38.0

is. Before you even knew you wanted to know what the weather is, here's what the weather is, right?

0:42.0

That is, I think, actually they're thinking here. This is why, you know, all these models are

0:47.7

predictive models to varying degrees, whether it's predicting what the next token in a linguistic

0:53.0

chain is, or it's predicting what somebody

0:56.0

wants out of a search result, or it's predicting what you want before you know that you want

1:01.9

it.

1:03.0

That's their actual mindset here.

1:05.0

It's not that it becomes this like constant companion that you're chattering away with all

1:10.1

day, every day. Instead it becomes this thing that're chattering away with all day, every day. Instead, it becomes this thing that

1:13.3

makes chattering away obsolete because it's feeding you information that you then just receive.

1:19.9

So there are a couple other sides of that. Number one, I think the other side of the multimodal

1:24.5

model is, yes, there is the one that individuals will use as consumers.

1:29.1

I take your point, Jathan, as well, that like, and this is especially true if you look at

1:32.9

the other companies, Microsoft and Google especially, who's all their new product announcements

1:37.8

are just like, let us intrude in more of your life. Give us access to everything and we'll

1:43.7

let you search your own photos or whatever.

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