Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - PREVIEW: Abortion Gaslighting is Back at SCOTUS
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🗓️ 24 April 2024
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Wednesday morning, the court heard arguments in Moyle v. United States, the consolidated case tackling what levels of care pregnant patients can be provided in emergency rooms in states with draconian anti-abortion laws.
And on Thursday morning, the High Court will hear Trump v. United States, the case in which the former president - who is currently spending much of his time slouched at the defendant’s table in New York City - will claim a kind of vast sweeping theory of immunity that roughly translates as - “when you’re president, they let you do it. You can do anything”. In an extra episode of Amicus, Dahlia Lithwick and Mark Joseph Stern dig into what happened in the EMTALA arguments Wednesday morning and then look ahead to Thursday’s arguments in the immunity case.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, Dahlia Lithwick here, and we are releasing an extra episode of amicus to our Slate Plus subscribers. |
| 0:08.0 | Amicus is Slate's podcast about the Supreme Court, the law, the rule of law, democracy. |
| 0:12.7 | We're in the middle of a life and death, truly democracy-defining week at the U.S. Supreme Court. |
| 0:19.3 | Wednesday morning, the High Court heard arguments in the |
| 0:22.0 | Amtala case. That's the cases consolidated into Moyle v. United States about what level of care |
| 0:29.3 | pregnant patients can be provided in emergency rooms. On Thursday morning, the High Court will be |
| 0:35.0 | hearing Trump v. United States. That's the case in which the |
| 0:38.9 | former president will claim a vast sweeping theory of immunity that more or less translates into |
| 0:44.6 | when you're the president. They let you do it. You can do anything. Slate's senior legal writer, |
| 0:50.8 | Mark Joseph Stern, and I are digging into what happened in the Amtala |
| 0:54.9 | arguments Wednesday and looking ahead to Thursday's arguments in the immunity case. |
| 1:00.2 | And we're going to share a taste of that conversation right here. |
| 1:04.0 | You can listen to it in full by signing up for Slate Plus, either at slate.com slash amicus |
| 1:10.1 | plus, or if you're listening on Apple Podcasts, |
| 1:13.6 | just click on try free on our show page. |
| 1:20.1 | I guess we just have to take a moment here together to contemplate what we just heard at SCOTUS because it was women justices, including |
| 1:30.9 | Amy Coney-Barrant, female Solicitor General, Elizabeth Prelogger, just laying out in the most |
| 1:37.8 | graphic, explicit terms, what preeclampsia, nectopic pregnancies and potential liver damage and gushing blood and helicopter |
| 1:49.0 | removal to other states looks like while the male justices really fretted about what the |
| 1:56.6 | spending clause and reticulated statutes and equity and the Hyde Amendment. Justice Alito really wants |
| 2:04.5 | to talk about fetal personhood and also the dictionary. Mark, I can't shake the sense that if |
| 2:10.0 | every woman in America had listened to this particular oral argument as it was going down on |
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