And now I'm going to have a chat with our resident pollster, Frank Lutz. Frankie, thank you for being here, DeMere. By popular demand, and by popular demand, I mean, we just wanted to watch it again. We just wanted to check back in on a British institution that has loomed large in our minds. Luke and I talk about whenever we see each other at least

once every time. This has become part of our shared cosmos. It is John Cleese's G.B. News show

The Dinosaur Hour. You'll recall a few months ago, we did an episode on, I think, the first two

episodes. We wanted to check back in on it. There's been a whole season of shows since then. You'll recall that in the first episode we did, we were quite surprised that the show was not as right wing as we were expecting. It's just sort of reactionary centrist lib in its disposition and politics. And it's so incompetent, so not up to the standard of

what even a show on a network like GB News should be, that it was quite charming. Look, Cleese is

going to Cleese. I believe there have been some episodes where he's got into the transphobia stuff.

We do not endorse that, but we just

picked an episode at random Monday, December 25th, Christmas Day of the Dinosaur Hour. And this episode,

all of you should watch it right now. It is such a treat. It rules. I mean, I, this show is unbelievable.

It's like, Will and I, you know, as practitioners of the craft

of podcasting, you know, we often say that one of the big problems with how a lot of people approach

podcasting is that, you know, there's kind of a cafe atmosphere. Like, there's no structure in the

conversation, but also there's no like deeper thematic or conceptual structure that like,

I don't know, yeah, imposes any discipline on the conversation or whatever. Like maybe,

maybe there's not really like much chemistry between the interlocutors, whatever. Or like,

like if you were at a table with your friend in a cafe, if any of us were and you just recorded

it, it would be mostly impenetrable and uninteresting to

anybody outside that table. Right. And that's fine if you're in a cafe or a bar with your,

with your friend, because you have a shared set of reference points and because, you know,

like you might be narrating experiences to each other or sharing them that I don't know,

or just of interest because someone's your friend but what cleese is done

with this show is a radical experiment where it's just like the shittiest podcast you've ever heard

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