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Michael and Us

PREVIEW - #336 - Out of England

Michael and Us

Luke Savage and Will Sloan

Tv & Film

4.6668 Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2022

⏱️ 3 minutes

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PATREON EPISODE - https://www.patreon.com/posts/66990683 The new Netflix special RICKY GERVAIS: SUPERNATURE (2022) affirms what we already knew: that the formerly very funny Ricky Gervais is funny no more. Where did his trajectory go wrong? We come up with some theories.

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0:00.0

Yeah, I mean, I'm glad we were able to kind of, you know, blow this out into a larger discussion of Jervais, because, I mean, the less that about this special, the better.

0:08.5

I mean, obviously, the jokes about trans people are the ones that have been drawing the most attention.

0:15.1

And, you know, they are exactly what you'd expect.

0:16.7

But, I mean, for the most part, this is just pretty mediocre stand-up comedy.

0:20.4

There are a few other things that I thought landed for me, and I thought there was some pretty good dark humor at the end.

0:24.9

When he was talking about, you know, his mom's funeral and how, you know, he and members of his family sort of got through it by telling these very dark jokes.

0:33.6

I mean, I think that's a kind of a flash of the sort of thing about him that I used to like and probably provides a certain context for some of the other stuff he's trying to do and failing to do.

0:44.4

I mean, I really think he comes out of a comedic tradition like a lot of British comedians do where discomfort is a major structuring force.

0:52.1

And so he seems to think that there's something inherently

0:54.7

funny and inherently defensible about that. And I think he's unable to really see the jokes.

1:00.3

You know, in this case, the jokes about trans people, you know, in a wider context. And I feel like

1:05.9

on some fundamental level, he really doesn't understand what it is that people object to about this style of

1:12.6

humor. Well, he understands because he has heard many comedians say it before, that comedy is tragedy plus

1:18.8

time. That bit that you just cited about his mother's funeral, you know, it does work because

1:24.0

that's his own personal tragedy and he's been able to, and he's able to explain

1:28.7

in a way that any audience can empathize with the way that comedy helped him through it.

1:33.4

But all the stuff about trans people, you know, the thesis statement of the special, such as it is,

1:38.3

comes about midway through when he says words to the effect of, I joke about rape, pedophilia,

1:43.8

the Holocaust, I joke about all

1:45.3

that, but the one issue that I can't seem to joke about is the trans issue. But look, all I care

1:50.9

about are jokes. That's all they are. Jokes. I joke about everybody, folks. I mean, it's not very

1:56.9

fun to have to poke holes in his logic, but I guess that's what we're here for. The animating

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