Hello and welcome to the G0 World podcast, where you can find extended versions of my

conversations on public television.

I'm Ian Bremmer, and today I'm going to try to make sense of President Trump's chaotic

foreign policy approach, a little over one year into his second term.

It would be an understatement to say that Trump 2.0 has little in common with the President's

first term in office.

Back then, he touted in America first foreign policy that was focused on securing the border,

ending forever wars, and letting the world sort out its own problems.

This time around, President Trump has leaned into the kind of presidency he once spurned.

He carries around a list of all the wars he's ended. He wants to turn Gaza into a beachside resort,

and he has talked openly about colonizing Panama and Greenland.

He bombed Iran, well, that one he's done before too, and he even captured Venezuela's leader.

This is not a president who is stepping back from the world stage.

This is a president who wants to turn it to his will.

And he has cast aside eight decades of global rules and norms in the process.

But will he succeed?

Joining me to discuss all that and more is former U.S. trade representative and the current president of the Council on Foreign Relations, Michael Froman.

Let's get to it. Mike Fruman.

Thanks for joining the show.

Thanks for having me.

We talk about big global issues.

And I guess I want to start with the, what is surprising

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