I'm Michelle Goldberg.

I'm Ross Douthon.

I'm David Lee and Hart.

And this is the argument.

This week, I sit down with Democratic presidential candidate Mayor Pete Buttigieg.

I don't think it makes sense to worry too much about any one of my competitors.

Then Ross, Michelle and I talk about Mayor Pete's rise and his views on intergenerational justice,

the radicalization of the Republican Party, and more.

He has a pitch that's kind of aimed squarely at like me.

And finally, a recommendation.

You're sort of pinned to your seat.

He's the 37 year old mayor of South Bend, Indiana, which isn't exactly a typical resume for

a presidential candidate.

He's the youngest candidate and the first openly gay one, but he says it's not about winning a race.

It's about winning an era.

But these aren't typical times, and Pete Buttigieg seems to have intrigued a lot of Democratic voters.

In recent polls in Iowa and New Hampshire, he's been in third place behind only Joe Biden

and Bernie Sanders.

I went to Chicago last week where Buttigieg was campaigning and we sat down in a downtown studio.

After you hear our conversation, Ross and Michelle will come back to offer their thoughts

on the Buttigieg phenomenon.

Mayor Pete Buttigieg, welcome to the argument.

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