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TALKING POLITICS

President Biden

TALKING POLITICS

Catherine Carr

News, News & Politics

4.72.5K Ratings

🗓️ 9 November 2020

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Now that we have a result, David and Helen reflect on what the next four years might hold. What issues could define a Biden presidency? Has this election indicated a possible realignment of American politics? And is it enough to restore faith in democratic politics? If Trump is not how democracy ends, where does the real danger lie?


Talking Points:


Biden faces three big issues: China, climate, and COVID.

  • It’s probably not possible to go back to US-China relations pre-Trump. However, China does perceive this election as significant.
  • Making climate a priority has implications for the China relationship.


This was too close to be a realignment election. Both parties turned out their vote because they had oppositional energy.

  • But there are shifts within. Florida went red, but people voted to increase the minimum wage. California went blue, but people voted to resist the unionization of essentially Lyft and Uber workers.
  • Trump has opened up the possibility for a more cross-racial, working class Republican Party. These shifts are still small, but it will be hard for them to go back to being a party of tax cuts for the rich, deregulation, and cultural conservatism.
  • It’s more complicated for the Democrats. There has been a shift to the left, but there are also deep divisions in the party.


A lot of the ‘Trump is how democracy ends story’ didn’t add up. How can American democracy have been so vulnerable, and yet so easily restored?   

  • The threats to democracy: COVID, climate, and China, don’t fit electoral cycles.
  • American democracy faces huge medium to long term challenges; too much energy has gone into short term risks.
  • Trump has allowed people to close their eyes to deeper structural problems.


Trump’s presidency did have serious geopolitical implications.

  • He changed American policy on China; most of the political class now regards China as a serious strategic rival.
  • He changed relations with Iran, and, in doing so, relations with Europe.
  • He pulled the US out of the Paris Climate Accord.


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0:00.0

Hello, my name is David Ronsman and this is Talking Politics. The results are now in.

0:17.1

I don't think there is anything Donald Trump can do about it. Joe Biden is going to be

0:22.0

the next president of the United States. And Thompson and I are going to try and think

0:27.8

about what that means. Talking Politics is brought to you in partnership with the London

0:36.3

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0:41.4

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0:47.0

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0:55.8

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1:07.5

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1:23.3

Helen, I was reflecting that our tagline for this podcast when we started it four years ago

1:29.1

was Corbin exclamation mark Trump exclamation mark Brexit. Exclamation mark and it is definitely

1:34.4

out of date now. We haven't even talked about this. I mean, probably should talk about it sometime.

1:39.1

Jeremy Corbin has been suspended from the Labour Party. Donald Trump soon is no longer going to be

1:45.2

President of the United States and Brexit, which we have talked about. Some of the heat

1:48.6

strangers going out of that, even though the most important decisions are still to be made.

1:53.2

So if we think about the Biden years that are coming, in a sense the Biden years have started

1:57.5

today. He's convening his COVID task force. What the tagline should be and we did an episode

2:05.3

talking about energy a couple of weeks ago and the headline of that was I think China climate

2:12.1

COVID. Do you think that would do as a tagline for the Biden years? Are those the big challenges?

2:18.1

As you see them. Yeah, I think that they essentially are and they're obviously

2:23.2

pretty related to each other too. I think that in the first instance that the Biden presidency

2:30.2

is going to be about the COVID crisis and that is true both of it as a health crisis

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