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So we were talking a little bit in the last episode about

kids who come to therapy and don't seem to actually want to heal their dysphoria.

And we were kind of contrasting this with typical scenarios that people come to the therapist's office and they say,

hey, I have a list of symptoms that I'd like to reduce.

But that's not always the case with gender.

Yeah.

And you know when somebody says something

and you clock it and you think, I want to go back to that, and then I want to go back to that and then I

didn't go back to it and I'm so glad that we're giving it actually its own time because

it's a key aspect that kind of can baffle parents because they're going they don't want to get better and I'm like yeah they don't they

they cling to their gender dysphoria as proof that they're trans it feels like it gives them the imprimatur that they need to be

this makes me trans it's almost the most precious part of of their feelings and it can be really distressing for

parents to watch that because it's like it feels so destructive and it arguably is

so destructive. Yeahm-hmm.

Yeah, and it's probably confusing too because sometimes young people will say to their parents,

I don't want to be trans.

I wouldn't do this to myself if I had the choice but this is just who I am and now I know and I have you know I just have to go along with this

So this is probably such a baffling place for people to be especially if they haven't really done much digging into all of this

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