Gahey, humans. Welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas. Here's a dangerous idea for you,

or certainly a counterintuitive one. The problem for the Palestinians, the problem that Palestinians

face is not Israel. It is rather the international community's indulgence of an encouragement of a Palestinian fantasy

that someday they'll be able to return to Israel proper.

That is the thesis of the book The War of Return, written by today's guest, who's a very

prominent Israeli.

She was a member of parliament in Israel. She entered

the Knesset in 2010 with the Labor Party. She was a foreign policy advisor to Prime Minister

Shimon Peres. She left the Labour Party along with Ehud Barak. They set up an independent

party, a new left-wing party called the Independence Party, a more centrist left-wing

party, rather, that wanted to continue collaborating with the Netanyahu government at the time.

It's all a bit into Nissan, as Israeli politics always is. Suffice it to say that she lost her seat

in 2013 when her party no longer contested elections. She was educated at Cambridge. She was educated at Harvard.

She was a political theorist and is a leading voice for the Zionist perspective. She supports a two-state

solution. She does not support settlement building by Israel in the West Bank. But she does

fundamentally place the core of the problem. She thinks everything else is

basically window dressing around the fact that the Palestinians have never accepted that Israel

has a right to exist within its own borders, and they have been indulged and encouraged by the

international community to continue with that fantasy. So this is time for some real talk.

Einart and I obviously disagree about a number of things here.

She actually was put on my radar by a follower, a listener, a reader.

So thanks to all of your feedback because it actually does land and I do consume it.

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