Hello you're listening to a preview of a premium episode of Block and Reported.

Katie, we're going to talk about babies because we've got some big news.

Do you want to tell them, should I?

We do, Jesse. We're having a podcast.

Yeah, so we're going to talk about surrogacy and this complicated debate and this very traditionally

minded figure who is against surrogacy and against a lot of stuff. So if you want to hear the

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episode enjoy the preview okay Jesse so today we're going to revisit an evergreen controversy on the internet.

This one, it seems to come up every time a couple, usually a gay couple, usually a gay male couple,

announces the birth of their child via surrogate, online.

We've discussed surrogacy on the show before,

but today we're going to take a bit of a different tack

because we're going to look at it from a data-driven perspective.

So get your yard sign out of storage,

because in this house we are going to

hashtag believe the science. This is a departure usually. It's all feelings

on feelings and gut. Okay I like, I like this. New that new 2024 new year's resolution.

Yes. Okay, so we'll get to that shortly but first the reason that this came up again is because a few weeks ago,

it might be this point a month ago, a Fox News commentator named

Guy Benson posted photos of his newborn baby son who he and his husband had had via

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