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It would be peculiar if the central deremption that modernity is guilty of creating that then causes nihilism would be the faith and reason one, right?

That is not what modern political theorists who are worrying about is a focus on liberty, modernity working, right?

Faith is no longer in the, maybe there's a secular

equivalent of faith, but certainly the peculiar thing that Hegel wanted to do, have us all have

a national civic religion or something like that, that we all live through in our heart and

souls, cannot be what Habermas is shooting for.

I would tend to formulate the problem and the issue in the Enlightenment, while it may be

sort of manifest in an institutional sort of split between secular and theological or faith versus

reason, is it ends up really being a question of

authority and who has, where does that authority for making decisions both about what is true

and how we decide that and what, who and where authority rests for deciding what we do

and what's allowed to be done.

So laws and interrelations between individuals and communities.

And it comes down to that question of authority.

Breaking that split in terms of art, religion, and science is an interesting one because I haven't

analyzed it, but Habermas, I think, would say there's something about the

unity of that and that Hegel's appealing to in ancient Greek culture, that there were

sort of simultaneous authority between religion, art, and philosophy. Even if there was tension

there, there was something that was held together.

Hegel's appealing for a new authority. Like, we can figure out through the absolute what

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