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Impolitic with John Heilemann

Preet Bharara: Canaries, Coal Mines & Batshit Crazies

Impolitic with John Heilemann

Audacy | Puck

News, Politics

4.84.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 February 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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John is joined by Preet Bharara, former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York and one of the most prodigious federal prosecutors of the modern era, for the first of two back-to-back episodes on the pitched battle playing out in the federal courts over Donald Trump’s agenda. Bharara explains why the velocity, volume, and radicalism of Trump’s blizzard of executive actions are testing the legal system in unprecedented ways; Pam Bondi’s early moves to remake the DOJ are so ominous; and the claims on the right that court rulings against Trump are tantamount to a judicial coup aren't merely crazy or hyperbolic but actually dangerous. Despite all this, Preet also makes his case for why it’s crucial that, instead of freaking out, Trump’s critics keep calm and carry on—for now. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Aloha and namaste everyone and welcome Tim Politick with John Heilman, a puck and Odyssey joint featuring lively and depth, sometimes just a little bit profane conversations with the people who roam the quarters of power and influence in America weaving the warp and weft of our politics and culture.

1:22.4

A couple weeks back when Larry Tribe joined us on the podcast, I noted that for all the market and pronounced differences

1:28.9

between Trump 1.0 and Trump 2.0, one glaring similarity between those eras is that the

1:35.4

boundary pushing, norm-defying, statutory limit-pressing, rule of law bending, and possibly breaking,

1:43.6

constitution testing, or depending on your point of view,

1:47.5

Constitution flouting, an attempted Constitution shredding, behavior of our 45th and 47th President

1:54.7

and his administration allies has placed the federal courts on the front lines of the brutal

1:59.0

battlefield that defines our politics in the

2:02.3

age of rancorous polarization and bitterly tribal partisanship. Only this time, because Trump's

2:07.5

initiatives are more premeditated, more aggressive, more radical, and just plain more, the focus on

2:14.3

and the importance of the judiciary is even greater than before.

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