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Book now at the podcast show London.com. This is CBS Island the World. I'm John Batcht. The trade war between the United States and China. The real war, kinetic war, threatened by China against Taiwan and the region.

I welcome Grant Neusham, United States Marine Corps retired, the author of When China Attacks.

We come to why it is we must be very cautious these next weeks and months.

The headline in the Wall Street Journal,

She is ratcheting up China's pain threshold for a long fight with Trump.

Subhead, censorship and surveillance have helped keep the Communist Party in control

and are getting stronger.

The aim here is to make it clear to the United States that China is accepting pain that perhaps the U.S. will not.

Grant, a very good evening to your article in Japan forward points to the fact that China is now experiencing a troubled economy to be diplomatic and that the anticipation of better days ahead is not true for all billion people.

There's a great big number that exists on perhaps $5 a day or less.

There is a great big number that is migrant seasonally, lives in the interior in poverty and works in the

factories on the coast and sends all the money home so this is not a population comparable to any way

to what europe and the united states enjoy however all that your discernment adds to be careful because she has a tool that we would regard as irrational, and that's war.

How so, Grant. Good day to you.

Well, good day, John. Glad to be here.

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