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#PRC: Nuclear arms control "discussions" go nowhere on the eve of APEC San Francisco. Henry Sokolski, NPEC

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🗓️ 11 November 2023

⏱️ 9 minutes

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#PRC: Nuclear arms control "discussions" go nowhere on the eve of APEC San Francisco. Henry Sokolski, NPEC
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-11-07/us-chinese-officials-held-arms-control-talks-on-monday-state-dept


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0:00.0

This is CBS I on the world with John Bachelor.

0:07.0

Here's John Bachelor.

0:13.7

Nuclear Weapons Here's John Bachelor. Nuclear weapons, nuclear arms, much in the news, especially when the Kremlin speaks about Ukraine.

0:21.3

The larger story is that we have three nuclear-powered countries capable of

0:28.0

destroying each other, not just two the way we did in the first Cold War of the 20th century.

0:34.4

And the news from the Wall Street Journal was promising

0:37.1

until the headline, China, US,

0:40.3

to meet for rare nuclear arms control talks and then we turn to the follow-up which was

0:47.0

disappointing that the talks were not talks they were discussion that the talks were not negotiations, they were discussion, and there is disappointment following this discussion.

1:00.0

I welcome Henry Sikoski, the executive director of the Non-proliferation Policy Education Center.

1:07.0

Henry, a very good evening to you. I was misled by the Wall Street Journal's initial idea that these talks were substantive or

1:15.2

negotiations. What is the reluctance and what do we know? Good evening to you Henry.

1:19.8

Good evening. Yeah, they promised us a Cadillac, but threw us a hub cap. That's all we got.

1:28.0

And the reason I think this talk or discussions occurred was to check the box on something that most people

1:40.6

legally don't know about. Under the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, which is getting ready for a review,

1:47.0

they do them every five years,

1:50.0

you're supposed to be, as a member that would have nuclear weapons, China and the United States,

1:56.5

engaged in good faith efforts to negotiate an end to the nuclear arms race.

2:02.2

Well, one thing you can say about the Chinese, they

2:05.0

haven't done anything in good faith in that category and they were being called

2:09.9

out not only by Trump but by Biden being in breach of their obligations under that

2:16.4

treaty. Well they now can claim they check the box without doing a darn

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