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#PRC: Losing the chip wars. @GordonGChang, Gatestone, Newsweek, The Hil

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🗓️ 31 January 2023

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#PRC: Losing the chip wars. @GordonGChang, Gatestone, Newsweek, The Hill
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3686571/us-wins-support-from-japan-and-netherlands-to-clip-chinas-chip-industry.html

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0:00.0

This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Bachelors.

0:07.8

Chips, the high end of microchips, semiconductor business, a headline from the London Financial

0:14.1

Times, requiring interpretation. Netherlands and Japan join US in restricting chip exports

0:21.0

to China. I welcome Gordon Chang, at Gordon G. Chang, my colleague and friend, to help me

0:27.5

understand this story, which looks like restrictions of free trade, protectionism is the old word

0:33.2

for it. But it has to do with the Chinese military and advanced weaponry, and given the

0:39.0

general opinion that China is preparing for aggressive attack, something like Ukraine,

0:44.9

but much more violent. Paying attention to microchips is one way to put pressure on the

0:50.4

Chinese regime not to attack. I believe. Gordon, a very good evening to you. It says here,

0:55.8

Dio Mark's significant step in Washington's efforts to limit rivals' efforts to develop

1:00.7

its semiconductor industry. My memory of what you've taught me is that China has failed

1:06.4

over these years to build a high end chip-making industry, both the chips themselves and the

1:14.8

tools and machinery that make those chips. They've imported or borrowed or leased or stolen

1:21.5

what they've needed. This present regime that's being constructed with high-level talks,

1:27.7

including the United States, is it expected to be more successful than restrictions on

1:32.9

China in the past about chips? Good evening to you. Good evening, John. I think this will

1:39.4

be successful because there's only a certain number of companies that make the chips and

1:44.7

the chip-making equipment that China needs. So for instance, they need the tools. And there's

1:51.2

one Dutch company, ASML, that makes these machines extreme ultraviolet lithography. And it's,

2:00.3

although it's difficult to control the sale of chips, it is much easier to control the

2:06.6

more important thing, which are these chip-making equipment. So the tools, I think, are critical.

2:12.6

And that's why the Netherlands are part of this deal because of ASML.

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