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This is CBS Eye on the World. Here's John Batchelor.

With my colleague and friend, Gordon Chang at Gordon G. Chang, and we're very pleased to welcome the author of the new book, The Troublemaker, Mark Clifford's new book,

how Jimmy Lye became a billionaire, Hong Kong's greatest dissident, and China's most feared critic.

Jimmy Lai remains detained by the People's Republic of China on trial under a national security law,

and his fate is indeterminate at this

point. So we welcome Mark, a long time participant in the success of Apple Daily in Hong Kong

before it was closed down by the national security team, and before that, a man who has observed Jimmy Lye over many, many years.

Mark, congratulations for your book.

It tells a story.

Thanks so much, John.

It tells a story simultaneously of the rise of the miracle of China,

because Jimmy Lai was part of that rise of the miracle, his opportunity that

he took, starting from a family in the Pearl River Delta Basin, and without a father,

traveled on his own into Hong Kong and made his fortune in the world by being shrewd and timely and

tough including sleeping on the factory floor that his aunt found for him when he first came to

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