This is a series of CBS I on the world. I'm John Bachelor with my colleague and co-host and friend Gordon Chang at Gordon G. Chang.

Beginning of November, a remark by the Admiral in charge of the

Indo-Pacific Command, Paparo.

Talking about Chinese pilots and ship captains.

quote I believe they've been directed to be more aggressive and they have followed those

orders. I welcome Jim Finel of the Geneva Institute but but most importantly, Navy Captain retired of intelligence and information

of the Pacific Fleet.

To comment on this remark by the Admiral, connecting to an incident of these last days involving an Australian warship

Tuumba and a Chinese warship that approached, despite being told that the Tuumba was at a full stop to untangle its

screws with divers, continued to approach, and then Sonar was turned on.

I go to you, Jim, to understand, is this understood as a hostile, provocative act turning

on Sonar?

Because the further explanation knew to me was that the divers were or could be

very badly damaged good evening to you Jim. Good evening John and Gordon I

this is definitely an unquestionable hostile act from the PLA Navy towards the

sailors and the divers that were in the water for the HMSMS HMA S Tumba.

It was dead in the water, it was clearing its screws.

This is, you know, divers are embarked upon ships not to conduct typically not to do offensive operations against other ships are there to do things of this nature to make sure that there's no impediments to the propulsion of their worship.

So this is a completely defensive safety action

that they were taking underneath their own hall.

So the fact that the PLA Navy warship

got is close enough to be able to effectively

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