All right, so I don't know how it happened, but you know I think somewhere in your career you I think you started out with bodybuilding and I think you ended up in powerlifting and I've never

never messed with any body building.

I've never been to a body building show,

but I had the powerlifting career for a long time held on to that try to be as fast I can for as long as I can try to be as strong as I can for as long as I can and now here I am

Sucked into some bodybuilding.

You used to make fun of me for that shit.

All the time.

Yeah.

I came to your gym.

I'm like, where are the mirrors?

And the time I told you that my legs were 30 inches,

you were like, how do you know that? Well, I measured him. him you said that's the gayest shit I ever heard.

Yeah yeah do you have a tape measure?

Was that after you shaved him?

Yeah.

It is you know bodybuilding is, a lot of it's weird. A lot of it's new to me. I mean like,

shaving your body, being in tan, trying to find like posing trunks and like all these

things are really foreign to me.

Posing, you know even the act of posing can be a little weird.

But there's so much discipline that happens.

Sometimes you have six meals a day, seven meals a day, you have a tremendous

amount of meals, multiple workouts per day. Looking back at your bodybuilding career, do you

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