Donald Trump demands a pardon for Benjamin Netanyahu and a billion dollars from the BBC. Plus, we'll be speaking to the co-authors of a new book on anti-Semitism, Biano Golodriga and Yonit Levy. It's Unholy. I'm Jonathan Friedland in London. And I'm Yonite Levy in New York.

Unholy, two Jews on the news.

I remember I used to live in Tel Aviv once.

I think I had friends, perhaps a career.

But here I am in New York because my co-host did not tell me that after you read a book,

there's a whole lot of work doing promoting the book.

So right after we did our unholy tour in New York City, I flew back to Israel for a week, and here I am back in New York.

That was my summary of my past two weeks, John.

No, you are.

You are clocking up the air miles in quite a major way.

You are promoting the book.

In fact, Unholy listeners will be more aware of that than most because dropped into their feed is the opening

chapter of Don't Feed the Lion. And if you have not noticed that yet, I mean, obviously

do it after you've heard this week's episode. But there it is, the opening of the audio book

of Don't Feed the Lion. We're going to talk about that properly with you and your co-author,

Biana Golodriga, later on in the podcast. But how's it feeling, a book now out in the world

off your laptop and in the hands of readers? It's quite a feeling, isn't it?

It's very strange. Again, you have immensely more experience in this than I do. I think perhaps

we should have had this conversation

before, but it's very, very strange. I think for the equivalent I keep thinking about is that,

for women, apologies, is that, you know, you go through pregnancy and birth and you think,

okay, that's it. I did it. I'm great. And now there's this whole thing of, oh, actually raising

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