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The Waves: Gender, Relationships, Feminism

Power of the Dog's Sneaky Feminism

The Waves: Gender, Relationships, Feminism

Slate Podcasts

News Commentary, Society & Culture, News, Sexuality, Health & Fitness

4.2903 Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2022

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s episode of The Waves, we’re saddling up and taking the reins to talk Westerns. Film critic and host of the podcast Watch With Jen, Jen Johans is joined by Washington Post TV critic and host of the All About Almodóvar & All About Campion podcasts, Inkoo Kang.


First they dive into the history of the genre: What makes something a Western, and how the genre has challenged stereotypes when it comes to the sexes. Then they explore Jane Campion’s Oscar-nominated film, and the latest big Western, Power of the Dog. 


In Slate Plus, Jen and Inkoo talk about whether pianos are feminist.  


Recommendations:

Jen: The films of Terrence Malick and Wim Wenders

Inkoo: Jane Campion’s 1999 film, Holy Smoke 

 

Podcast production by Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Shannon Palus and June Thomas. 

Send your comments and recommendations on what to cover to thewaves@slate.com


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0:00.0

This is the waves.

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This is the waves.

0:03.0

This is the waves.

0:05.0

This is the waves.

0:06.0

This is the waves. This is the waves, Slate's podcast about gender, feminism, cowboys, and campy on.

0:19.1

Every episode you get a new pair of women to talk about the thing we can't get off our minds and today you've got me Jen

0:26.1

Johans a critic and three-time national award-winning writer at film intuition.com and host of the

0:32.0

podcast Watch with Jen.

0:34.0

And you've got me, Ingo Kank, the TV critic at the Washington Post, and the

0:39.5

creator and host of the podcast's all about Amadovar and all about Campion, about the films of

0:45.7

Director Padovar and our Director Dujour, Jane Campion.

0:50.9

When you hear the term movie Western, the first images that likely spring to mind are of John

0:56.4

Wayne, Clint Eastwood, Gary Cooper, or Sam Elliot in shit kickers and Stetson sitting tall in the saddle in the middle of the southwestern desert.

1:05.8

It's a distinctly macho genre on the surface that some say deals uncomfortably with the racism of quote-unquote cowboys and Indians plot lines

1:14.9

where vengeance and male pride rules the day. However, when you look further, you just might

1:21.0

be surprised by the complexities of the characters and themes you'll discover have been there all along

1:26.0

Since this earliest days as one of Hollywood's most profitable genres

1:30.7

It's also the one most reflective of the history, politics, and mythos of America and its place in the world.

1:37.0

From high noon to the power of the dog, today we are taking the reins.

1:42.0

While my relatives were big fans of Westerns,

1:45.0

besides the movie Tombstone, which is a family favorite,

1:48.0

as a feminist and liberal, it really wasn't a genre I appreciated

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