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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Post-debate special!

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, News, News Commentary, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.511.1K Ratings

🗓️ 16 January 2020

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Vox's Matt Yglesias and I unpack the debate that did, and didn't, happen. Related reading: "Joe Biden will never give up on the system" by Ezra Klein "4 winners and 3 losers from the January Democratic debate" Vox Staff "The case for Elizabeth Warren" by Ezra Klein "Bernie Sanders can unify Democrats and beat Trump in 2020" by Matthew Yglesias "Joe Biden skates by again" by Matt Yglesias "Elizabeth Warren’s new plan to reform bankruptcy law, explained" by Matt Yglesias "The Third Rail of Calling ‘Sexism’ Warren tried not to talk about it." by Rebecca Traister My book is available for pre-order! You can find it at www.EzraKlein.com. Want to contact the show? Reach out at ezrakleinshow@vox.com You can subscribe to Ezra's new podcast Impeachment, explained on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Overcast, Pocket Casts, or your favorite podcast app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, welcome to the Clancho on the Vox Media podcast network.

0:14.8

Today is a special crossover, Weeds, EK show, episode, a post debate special.

0:19.4

Mattaglase is and I talk about both the debate that the Democrats had the other night

0:23.9

in Iowa and the debate in some ways more importantly, they did not have, which was a more

0:29.4

interesting debate.

0:30.4

And so we end up getting pretty deep into some of the differences between the Joe Biden

0:35.2

theory of politics and the Bernie Sanders Elizabeth Warren theories of politics.

0:38.7

So I think this is a fun conversation.

0:41.6

Quick notes, the tour, the book tour is beginning to sell out, which is great.

0:46.2

Thank you all for all of you who are coming.

0:48.4

But we're now sold out in San Francisco, in DC, in New York, in Brooklyn.

0:52.8

But if you are in Portland, in Boston, in Seattle, in Los Angeles, go to YRPolarize.com or

0:58.3

EzraCline.com to sign up for those dates.

1:01.3

And of course, please a prior to the book.

1:03.3

And I'll be releasing more dates in more places very soon.

1:06.4

So stay tuned for that.

1:08.1

But here I am talking about the debate with Matt Iglesias.

1:11.3

So we're going to talk about the debate, the state of the campaign and some of the debates

1:15.7

that didn't really happen.

1:17.5

But first, I mean, we should talk about what did happen up there on the stage in which

1:21.9

it seemed like the big headline takeaway was that a slightly nasty brewing controversy

1:28.3

between Warren and Sanders got nastier.

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