Hello and welcome to another episode of I Way with Jumila Jumila, a podcast that has absolutely

no time and no space for shame, fuck shame. I hope you're well and if you're not that would be fair

because the world is on fire. But if you need an hour of the best escape ever, I strongly suggest

you keep listening because this is one of my favourite episodes ever. It's one of my favourite

interviews I've ever done. It's one of my favourite guests that I've ever been able to interview.

Her name is Cindy Gallup and if you don't know her yet, you are going to be so happy with me

for introducing you to her. What a fucking woman. What an absolute legend. Truly my new obsession,

my absolute goal in life. Just the biggest breath of fresh air and in a moment where especially women

and many modernised people feel so under, we feel like we are being so oppressed and so rolled

backwards and so harmed and having our freedom stripped from us. There's a freedom to this woman

that could inspire anyone, any age, any gender, any background. She's a remarkable human being.

She's in her 60s. She's lived an extraordinary and massively impressive life and she leads

completely, I only say unique because it's not the kind of life we hear about in the mainstream.

Many people probably live this way but often out of shame they keep it to themselves and to have

such a celebrated public figure live happily on her own has never had a relationship beyond two

years. Love's that about herself has no kids has never been married. It's thrilled at the idea

of living alone, dying alone. Which sounds morbid but really isn't when you hear talking about it.

She does life exactly her own way and she comes from a half Asian background and as many of you will

know that traditionally comes with a lot of tradition. An Asian background many kind of ethnicities

have a lot of traditions steeped through them and a lot of that comes into carrying that tradition

on and having children and her viewpoints around all of this are so freeing. I know I'm babbling on

like a fucking loser but I'm big, big time fangirling over here like to the work I can barely find

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