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The Politics Guys

Populism, Power, and the Enduring Global Disorder

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

Politics, News

4.4783 Ratings

🗓️ 24 September 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Mike talks with Jason Pack, host of the Disorder podcast, in this crossover episode. In addition to hosting the Disorder podcast, Jason is an Associate Fellow of the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI), a Senior Analyst for Emerging Challenges at the NATO Defense College Foundation, and the author of Libya & the Global Enduring Disorder. Topics Mike & Jason discuss include: What “global enduring disorder” means. Why Cold War unity faded. Power: hard, soft, cultural & convening. Neopopulism’s fake solutions. U.S. blunders in Iraq & Afghanistan. Why Ukraine is different. Trump, Israel & the Middle East. Reasons for optimism amid disorder. The Disorder Podcast on X The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Check out the excellent Sustainable Planet podcast. Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys. The Politics Guys is part of The Democracy Group, a network of podcasts that examines what's broken in our democracy and how we can work together to fix it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome to the politics, guys, a place for bipartisan, rational, and civil debate on American politics and policy.

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