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Welcome to the New York Times

podcast, your fully tattooed lower left calf

of music news and criticism.

I'm your host John Cara Monica.

Can't you see I'm doing fine. It's what I've always wanted.

Two little kids out on the lawn.

Once we had love now it's gone good things haven't happened

yet a mentee as a movie said it's what I've always wanted.

Hey, here's to you, California.

That was California by Blink 182. California is about a state that I don't relate to but a state of mind that we all relate to and that state of mine is pop-punk in adulthood and I am here with some punk papas that's real talk I've got Rob

Arvarville from the ringer hello I've got Joe Coscarelli who is not a papa but he is a big

Papa that's me our music reporter at the New York Times and

we're here to talk about the re-emergence of pop punk as a thing that we might conceivably

talk about in the New York Times pop cast which is just not a thing that we could have called six months ago.

Blink 182 has a new album out. It's called California.

Put some respect on that, the number one album in the country.

Knock Drake off the top.

Yeah, okay, well, you have some things to answer for, Rob.

First of all, okay, so Rob wrote about the Blink-82 album as I did and in Rob's review,

which you should read because it's beautifully written but there is a sentence somewhere

to near the end of that review where you're like this record is better than views.

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