I know a lot of people who also struggle with firing.

They know they need to let someone go.

Well, okay, so there's two sides to this.

Sometimes I think that they just need to fire that person.

And then there's the other time where they're not doing a good job of leading that person.

And I've honestly been guilty of both, where I remember with one of our managers, I was, I, it was a sales manager.

Yeah. I was like, hey man, like, why aren't you listening to the calls of the sales team?

And he was like, oh, stumbling around or whatever.

And it just made me mad. I was like, dude, you need to listen to the

damn calls. So then that happened and then a week later I was like, hey, why do you

have them filling out this sheet? That's like 20 questions long like they

don't want to like fill out this sheet they don't they don't like it. It's it's taking up a lot of time and then that was a problem

And then I was like all right,, I'm going to fire this guy.

And someone asked me,

did you ever tell this guy to do call recordings?

And I was like, no, but he's been a sales manager before he

should have known and they're like well do you think that's fair that you're going to

fire him even though you never told him to do that task and I was like fine that's that's fair.

fair.

Yeah, but what are your thoughts on that?

Oh man, what have unpacked that?

So first of all, I think we fire a lot of people wrongly because we don't measure the process or manage the process and the process fails performance

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