The Oh, That was a massive ick. Such an ick.

I said to Beth and shall I count the ceiling?

She went, yeah, I went three, two, one, action.

And normally I just say go yeah

hello and welcome everybody to seeing Red

a crime podcast on Mark and I'm Bethan thank you for joining us once again

everybody and thank you Mark for

stepping up and just going solo last week. I was very grateful.

Yeah it was a really interesting case and thank you to everybody who's been in

touch but it's great to have

you back Beth and I just I know we've said it before on those rare episodes that we

record solo because we don't do it very often at all now it is just weird and really not the same and yeah my preference is 100% to

have both of us doing it. Yeah I do agree. I found it really weird because I

listened to your episode whilst I was doing the school run that week and I was like

wanting to answer you and I couldn't and I didn't like it. But yeah it was a very

fascinating episode. Just I just was so angry and frustrated I did post on

Facebook I just got the whole thing just was so frustrating so yeah

really really good episode thank you Mark let's take a moment to thank our most

recent patron supporters and then we will move on to your episode Bethan which is about solicitors.

I thought we'd had a legal letter when I opened this up and saw the attachment but

it wasn't a legal letter. The email comes through solicitors. But yes, please

thank our newest patron supporters. Okay we have Rachel Dunphy, Vanessa Graham,

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