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episode. Welcome to the Lost to Beta Show for Politically Ecclectics. I'm Robbie Gupta. And in a

second, we're going to hear from our guest who is Molly Roden Winter, who wrote a book that,

to say the least, was explosive, came out about a year ago. It's called Moore,

a memoir of open marriage where the book is exactly that. And I talked about this with Tyler

Austin Harper from the Atlantic a while ago when the book first came out. But it's the kind of

book that people were passing along and judging to say the least.

Everybody had an opinion about this book and about what Molly puts out there.

And we finally get her on and talk to her both about her experience in her open marriage,

but really about what she's trying to say through the memoir.

And so, you know, this is, you know, an episode that, you know, touches on mature themes. We don't get too explicit at all, but obviously, like, if you got kids in the car or something like that and you don't want them hearing about this kind of thing, you might want to just be careful where you listen to it. But I think this will be useful no matter where you are in life. And actually, Molly and I are very different parts of life.

She's got kids who are out in this world.

She's been married for a long time.

I'm single without kids.

But we have, I think, a discussion that goes beyond the exact content of a marriage and an open marriage to really talk about friendship and hobbies and relationships and jealousy and love and sex

and all these types of things, heterosexuality, homosexuality, you know, cross-gender friendships.

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