Politics on Trial: John Brown vs Slavery
Past Present Future
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🗓️ 31 July 2025
⏱️ 56 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, my name's David Rundsenman and this is past-present future, the History of Ideas podcast. |
| 0:16.3 | Today, in politics on trial, I'm talking about the trial in 1859 of John Brown that some people think caused, or at least led to, the American Civil War. |
| 0:29.6 | Whether it did or didn't, it is one of the most important trials of the 19th century, and it certainly defined what that war was about. |
| 0:42.8 | So far in this series, I've been talking about the trials of people who, by the time they reached |
| 0:49.3 | the courtroom, different kinds of courtrooms, were already world historical figures, or if not that, at least within |
| 0:56.8 | their own nations or within their own time, really, really significant people, Socrates. |
| 1:03.1 | Joan of Arc, she was a nobody, but by the time she was on trial, she was probably the most famous |
| 1:08.0 | woman in Christendom, Queens, Mary Queen of Scott, Kings, Charles |
| 1:13.2 | I, Louis XVIth, Thomas Moore, when he went on trial, all of Europe was watching. Even Warren |
| 1:20.7 | Hastings, not much known now, when his trial started, he was one of the dominant figures of the age, |
| 1:27.3 | not so much by the time |
| 1:29.1 | it ended seven years later. |
| 1:30.7 | But the person I'm talking about today was very well known before his trial, but he wasn't |
| 1:35.7 | a world historical figure, even within his own nation, the United States. |
| 1:40.1 | He was one of many people who were making the news, one might say, making a difference, |
| 1:45.7 | but it was his trial, the event that precipitated it, the trial itself, and what followed |
| 1:50.9 | his trial, that made him a central figure of his time and in some ways a central figure |
| 1:57.0 | ever since, one of the most important people of the 19th century. So it was the trial that |
| 2:04.2 | did it. And that makes this story a bit different from the other stories I've been telling. |
| 2:08.7 | And in particular, not just the trial, but some of the things that were said during the trial, |
| 2:13.5 | above all, a speech that John Brown himself gave after he'd been convicted, which is one of the |
| 2:20.5 | great speeches of American history. It's not that John Brown himself was a nobody before he was put |
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