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You know Patty, I have to say that dealing with all of the tragedies, the outrages, the problems that are posed by the

Trump administration really feels like you're essentially on a treadmill that never stops and its analogy

and a credit that went to Asher and Gappa who came up with that one years ago but that is

really how it feels to me.

I feel like there's so many outrageous, there's so many scandals, there's so much

potential corruption in malfeasance that it's just it's hard to keep track of much less do something about it.

Well, and I you know when this really started to take whole, I mean when when Trump's candidacy beginning in 2015 started to take hold. I mean when when Trump's candidacy beginning in 2015 started to

take hold I was on the air at the time on a radio show in the middle of the night

albeit you know and and with a lot of room to have conversations but we talked a lot about kind

of pacing ourselves when it came to the outrages and you know because there is you know this

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