Hello and welcome to the Slate Political Gab Fest for Thursday, June 27th, the Please Send Soap and Toothpaste

Edition. I'm Emily Bazelan. I'm here in Aspen, Colorado, in an amazingly beautiful recording studio. I don't know how we wound up

here, but it is very lovely. And I'm here, of course, with John Dickerson of 60 Minutes.

Hello, Emily. It is really, it's just work surrounded by blonde wood and beauty and all these

amazing instruments which crave someone with talent to play them. Right. It's a good thing you're here.

I wish I answered to that description. And we're also happily joined by David French of the National Review. I should have asked you if that was the proper way to introduce you. Yeah, absolutely. Is that good? Okay. Yeah, it's wonderful. Yeah, thank you. Excellent. We're really glad you're here. David and I are looking forward to totally geeking out on Supreme Court decisions. But first, I'm going to introduce all of our topics. On this week's show, we're going to talk about Donald Trump's pensioned in the last week for shifting course abruptly. This happened, of course, with regards to Iran, the air strike that Trump

pulled back at the last minute, and also on the domestic front with immigration, where a supposed

plan to have mass deportations from the interior of the country didn't happen in the end, and Trump instead

try to use this threat to get the Democrats to start talking about changing

asylum law in a way that he has been pushing for. So we're going to talk about this Trump

approach of bark with very little bite and what the implications are of that. Our second topic is

about the end of the Supreme Court term. Two giant cases are coming down basically as we're

taping this morning.

One is a decision about partisan gerrymandering. The second is about the Trump administration's

effort to add a citizenship question to the census. We will go through both of them. And then finally,

we're going to talk about the fight within conservatism about the sensibility and approach of our guest, David French,

who became the sort of lightning rod for a really interesting conversation among conservatives

about Trump and Trumpism and also about civility or the lack thereof, the need to end

civility within the conservative movement.

And at the end, of course, we'll have cocktail chatter.

Okay.

So, John, changing your mind at the last minute, making a big deal of changing your mind,

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