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The following podcast contains explicit language.

Hello and welcome to the Slate Political GabFest for May 22nd, 2015, the Osama Ben Laden sure-read

boring books edition. I'm David Plotz of Atlas Obscura. Joining me in New Haven or New Haven.

Is it New Haven or New Haven? Not sure. She'll tell us in a second, Emily Bazelon of the New York Times

magazine or the New York Times Magazine or the New York Times Magazine.

No, that sounds weird. I think New Haven can be either way.

What do you say? I usually say New Haven, but I think lots of people say New Haven.

Huh. And from Oklahoma City, where he's announced his campaign for president, is John Dickerson of CBS Face the Nation. Hello, John.

Hello, David. Hello, Emily. What were your, what will you be running on? What will your campaign be based on?

What will my campaign platform be? I don't know. More sleep for everyone.

Oh, I like it. I'm sold. Really?

More sleep for everyone. You're not such a sleep person, but it's a weird thing about you. I don't know how to account for. I have to say... You're so sunny and functional. I, as I've gotten older, I am not. I'm sleeping less. It is just... I never slept a lot, but... How much do you guys sleep? I mean, I can't sleep anymore, but I would like to.

How much if you were allowed to? Yeah, and on the weekends, I totally catch up and make sure to get eight hours. Well, I mean, I can't, even if I try to get eight hours, I can't anymore. I just, I'd wake up. Like, I basically wake up. That's where I am. I'm with Dickerson. I wake up a lot, but I try to go back to sleep. Huh. I don't think I've slept eight hours, maybe once in the last two years. It just doesn't work. It doesn't happen. Anyway. Wow. So it goes. I'm in a log roll for Obscure

day. So May 30th, 2015, if you were anywhere in the world, do something amazing on May 30th. We have 150 events in 25 countries, 39 states for Atlas Obscura. You've got to go out and do something. So email me, David, at Atlas Obscura.com. I will tell you some great thing to do on May 30th. And I was actually on a fantastic Huffington Post podcast called The Weird News.

It's part of the Panoply Network.

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