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Hello and welcome to this late political gapest for June 14th, 2013, the If This Be Treason, Make the Most of it edition.

I'm David Plotz, the editor of Slate, here in Washington with John Dickerson under Tornado Watch.

John, how are you?

I'm fine. I'm preparing to be in a door frame somewhere.

Culture Gab Fest.

There was an earthquake during the taping of the Culture Gab Fest once.

I remember that.

There's an earthquake for me every time I listen to the Culture GabFiff.

The earth moves.

Under your feet.

Let's not go deeper there.

From New Haven, you heard her, the Mighty Oak that is Emily Bazelon.

Hello, Emily.

Hello, David.

So it was at this point in the show last week when I gave out my home telephone number

as part of a kind of riff about NSA surveillance.

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