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Political Gabfest - John Dickerson’s Navel Gazing: The Meaning Behind All This Navel Gazing

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🗓️ 1 June 2024

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

In this week’s essay, John discusses instinct versus obligation, his daughter’s wit, how he has changed since episode one, and more.

 

Notebook Entries:

Notebook 58, page 10. September 16, 2021

“You don’t measure your life the way you measure your writing.” - Nan


Notebook 75, page 46-47. September 2021

When your dog dies and son goes to college and you are confronted with your life’s work it all boils down to one alarm: the clock is ticking. If a scream is better than a thesis, I was hearing some kind of scream, but what was the thesis?


References:

Everything Is Copy – HBODocs 

 The Power of Regret – Daniel Pink


The Mezzanine – Nicholson Baker 

The Creative Process” – James Baldwin

Slouching Towards Bethlehem – Joan Didion

Three Paths Toward the Meaning of Life” - Arthur Brooks for The Atlantic


Podcast production by Cheyna Roth.

Email us at navelgazingpodcast@gmail.com


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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to navel-gazing, episode 9 of season 1.

0:09.1

Notebook 58, page 10, September 16th, 2021.

0:13.7

You don't measure your life the way you measure your writing.

0:17.2

Nan.

0:18.9

Nan is our youngest, who I encountered in the kitchen, fresh from the garret, where I had just

0:24.4

pawed through the box of notebooks for the first time, the exercise you experienced in episode

0:29.3

eight. I was lolling around with a head full of frothy ideas, trying to figure out just what to

0:35.2

make of that experience, lily padding through periods of my life on the orange carpet.

0:40.3

There had been something transporting, curiosity poking, inviting about the exercise.

0:45.3

There was something in this material. I should do something with whatever was there.

0:50.3

But what should I do?

0:52.3

It was in this frame that man discovered me. I unfolded the contents of my

0:56.6

thought and received this life advice. In retrospect, I'm surprised that any conversation took place

1:04.8

at all, let alone one sufficient to produce a quotation to be copied down into the notebook.

1:10.3

Nan, who at the time was 18, and a senior in high school, liked to be in those parts of the house,

1:14.8

which had, as their defining characteristic, their sole characteristic, really, was that they

1:19.4

were spaces in which Anne and I were not.

1:22.8

A sense of being alone that started this podcast in episode one to Nan would have been heaven.

1:33.6

I don't remember the scene in the kitchen precisely from September 2021, but my supposition is that when I

1:40.2

arrived, Nan had been preoccupied, uncaffeinated, focused on the promise of the coffee maker.

1:46.5

The kitchen is narrow, like a subway car.

1:48.7

But unlike a subway, the kitchen only has one exit.

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