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Political Gabfest - Introducing Charged: A True Punishment Story

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Slate Podcasts

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2019

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

For two and a half years, Emily Bazelon has been following people through a special court in New York designed to be a speedy machine for the harsh punishment of illegal gun possession. Along the way, a strange thing happened — the politics outside the courtroom started to change when a new generation of activists and insiders began challenging the old system the gun court was part of. Season 1 of Slate Presents brought you the story of Ruby Ridge, and Season 2 brings you a fight to transform one big-city justice system.

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0:00.0

Hey, GabFest listeners, it's me, Emily. You've been hearing about my book and podcast charged,

0:05.5

and I am so excited to finally bring you the first episode today. You're going to meet the two

0:10.5

main characters in the podcast, Eric and Terrari. They were born in the same neighborhood in Brooklyn,

0:15.8

a generation apart, but their lives have taken entirely different paths. All season long,

0:20.7

we're going to follow them

0:21.5

as we consider what makes someone a criminal and how America could reshape its criminal justice system.

0:26.7

If you want to hear the full series, and I really hope you do, subscribe to Charged in its own feed.

0:32.0

We're only dropping the first episode here in the Gab Fest. You can find links about how to do that in the description of this

0:37.9

podcast, or you can search for Charged in Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen. Thanks so much,

0:43.7

and now here it is, episode one of Charged, a true punishment story. Enjoy the show.

0:50.3

A bit of housekeeping before we get started. This podcast is a co-production of Slate and the Appeal, a new publication about the justice system.

0:58.8

And it's a companion to my new book, also called Charged, and available wherever you buy books.

1:04.3

Okay, thanks for listening. Here's the show.

1:08.0

It's an elementary rule of politics.

1:14.1

Any elected mayor has to have the police on their side.

1:22.4

But from the day Bill de Blasio took his seat at City Hall in New York, his relationship with the police went from bad to worse to catastrophic.

1:28.7

First, de Blasio cut way back on the practice of stop and frisk, the cop's favorite tool for shaking down people on the street. Then, a white officer killed an unarmed black man on a Staten Island

1:34.3

sidewalk. That death rocked the city. Thousands of protesters took to the streets demanding justice

1:40.1

for the death of Eric Garner. At least 30 people... De Blasio blamed the tragedy on, his words, a history of racism.

1:47.7

Every New York cop felt implicated.

1:50.4

Next, de Blasio went on TV and said he'd warned his biracial son to be very careful around the police.

1:56.2

So now it was personal.

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