Hello, GabFest listeners.

This is David Flotz.

And we have a great surprise for you today.

So I know you've become accustomed to hearing me and John and Emily talk about the politics of the day here on the Gapvis feed,

and that's what you're going to get the next time you tune in. But today, we have a treat,

which is a new episode of Slow Burn, the pilot or the introduction to season two of the fantastic

podcast that Leon Neufuck does for Slate.

And in season one, Leon went deep on the Watergate scandal and brought us stories of Watergate that even people who were deep scholars of Watergate

didn't know about or had forgotten about and brought that scandal

and its relevance to modern life alive in wonderful ways. And he's going to do

the same this season with a more recent scandal, the Lewinsky scandal. Or maybe we don't even

call it the Lewinsky scandal. Actually, Leon and I can get into that with the scandal involving

President Clinton, his sexual misbehavior and the Ken Star investigation, the Whitewater scandal, Paula Jones,

its names that blast up from the past. So you're going to get a chance to listen to episode

one in a minute. But first, Leon is here just to talk to me briefly about what season two of

Slow Burn is going to be. Hello, Leon. Hey there. How are you?

I'm great. I listened to this episode. It's awesome. I had, I didn't know a ton of the stuff that

was in there, even though I didn't just live through the Lewinsky scandal. I was covering it for

Slate and felt that I breathed it for about a year and to have already learned things. Tons of things that I didn't know is a real tribute to your reporting and to the subtlety with which you're attacking it. Tell us why you're going into this scandal. And also, what do we call it? I always called it the Lewinsky scandal, but I think that history says that we shouldn't call it that. She did nothing wrong.

Yeah, so I refer to it sometimes as the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal that seems to sort of cover it and doesn't put an inordinate amount of responsibility on her shoulders.

And so the reason we decided to do it is that obviously the world has changed a lot in the last 20 years.

People think about sex differently and about presidential misbehavior differently, perhaps.

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