Hello and welcome to this late political gap fest for April 21st, 2022, the Farewell

Jocelyn Edition.

I am David Plotz of CityCast here in Washington, D.C.C.

I'm wearing black crip and a dark suit because this is Jocelyn Frank's

last day as our producer after seven years at the helm. Oh, my goodness. I'm joined also in

morning by Emily Bazelon of the New York Times Magazine in Yale University Law School in New Haven.

Hello, Emily. Hello, yes.

We don't approve of this.

I mean, we're excited because Jocelyn's going on to an excellent opportunity doing more podcasting at the Atlantic.

But it is a sad loss for us.

And in New York City, John Dickerson of CBS of Sunday morning.

Hello, John.

Hi.

On that dirt-like note. Yeah, well, I just, I think we're going to save our comments about Jocelyn to the end, are we? She would have wanted us to go out cheerfully. She does. She's still here. Well, she's still here. She would want us to be remembered. She's still editing this show. So it's not like she's taking her hands off the wheel completely.

This week on the Gab Best, we'll talk to former Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull about China and its role in the Ukraine conflict and what that Ukraine conflict means for a potential invasion of Taiwan.

Then a judge throws out the CDC mask mandate. Was it good law?

Was it good policy? Then the RNC pulls out of the presidential debates in 2024. Will there be no presidential debates in 2024? Does this matter for democracy? Plus, we'll have cocktail chatter.

We are joined by beloved GabFest regular Malcolm Turnbull.

Malcolm, of course, is the former Prime Minister of Australia.

And throughout his career, he focused, especially in his political career, he focused on China and its relationship to Australia.

We wanted to have him come on to talk to us about China in the context

of the Ukraine war. So Malcolm, let me start. How do you think China sees this war going so far?

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