Polanski, Protests & A Very Heated Week
The Trawl
Jemma Forte & Marina Purkiss
4.7 • 867 Ratings
🗓️ 5 May 2026
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
It’s been one of those weeks where the temperature of public discourse didn’t just rise, it boiled over.
Marina and Jemma both appeared on daytime TV in the immediate aftermath of the Golders Green attacks. Emotions were already running high, details were still emerging, and the pressure to say the “right” thing while not saying the “wrong” thing was intense.
They talk about the subsequent social media reaction and how the media are reporting things more broadly. Why do the Tories and Labour think it's OK to ban pro Palestine marches whilst still allowing the Tommy Robinson ones to continue? What is being focused on, what isn't and why that might be? Meanwhile, politicians of all flavours are targeting Zack Polanski over an inadvisable retweet and there are fresh calls to shut down pro-Palestine marches. When the facts are still emerging, why does the narrative lock in so fast?
Pudding is an exasperated Jonathan Pie ranting appropriately ahead of the council elections - Enjoy!
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| 0:00.0 | But why is my Jewish identity being raised from this conversation? |
| 0:02.4 | No, I'm not erasing it. |
| 0:04.4 | I'm not erasing it. |
| 0:04.4 | No, no, no, no, try that one on me. |
| 0:06.5 | Hello and welcome. |
| 0:06.5 | Hello and welcome to the troll, which might well be an echo chamber, which is lovely actually, |
| 0:24.4 | because that means no one's shouting back. I'm Marina Perkis. And I'm Gemma Forte. And on that note, |
| 0:29.6 | Marina! The other day, did you have a good day at the office? Were there any, for instance, |
| 0:35.1 | you know, death threats or raises to your blood pressure or just, you know, death threats or raises your blood pressure |
| 0:39.3 | or just, you know, just an average load of hideous abuse? So, Jimmer is obviously referring |
| 0:45.5 | to last Friday when I went on the Jeremy Vine show and it was a very, very heated exchange, |
| 0:51.8 | which we'll get into. But my anxiety is still there. Last little weekend, |
| 0:56.2 | dipped, dipped a bit. I have had to avoid X. Have there been death threats? Yes. Have I been |
| 1:02.7 | called a Nazi? Yes. Have I been called Nazi semi? Yes. So it's really worth it. And for someone |
| 1:09.2 | said to me, you really earn your money on that show. And your crust. I'm like, oh, bloody hard. That's not why really worth it. And for someone who said to me, you really earned your money on that show. |
| 1:11.6 | Your crust. |
| 1:12.4 | I'm like, oh, bloody hard. |
| 1:13.3 | That's not why I do it. |
| 1:15.1 | It's relative peanuts. |
| 1:17.3 | Well, I went on to a show after Marina on Channel 5 as well. |
| 1:22.6 | And similar in terms of the experience, however, no death threats for me, mainly because I'm not |
| 1:29.1 | on X anymore, which is wonderful. So I saved myself all that shite. Didn't really get much abuse |
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